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#1 2005-11-25 14:48:42

johnnycache
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From: Seattle
Registered: 2005-11-24
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Request for MaiTai recipes

Word on the street has it that this board might be a good place to find MaiTai recipes. If I want to do it right... pour a lot of love, patience and no-holds-barred effort into making a good MaiTai, what's the secret?

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#2 2005-11-29 11:35:39

Humuhumu
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From: Monolux
Registered: 2005-11-26
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Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

The Mai Tai has a long and storied history, and has been subject to much debate. I sit solidly in the camp that believes only in the One True Mai Tai, the Trader Vic's Mai Tai. A Mai Tai does not have pineapple juice or grenadine. When properly made, a Mai Tai has a nice brown color -- a pink Mai Tai is an abhorrence before the Tiki Gods.

The original Mai Tai recipe was created using a particular rum that is not available today -- 17-year-old J. Wray & Nephew rum. Thus, a bit of monkeying around has been neccessary over the years. Even Trader Vic's restaurants make their Mai Tai from a mix these days (unless you order it "San Francisco style"). Here's the recipe I know, it has served me well:

1 oz. Martinique rum (I use Saint James)
1 oz. Jamaican dark rum (I use Coruba)
1/2 oz. Orange Curacao (NOT the blue stuff)
1/4 oz. orgeat
1/4 oz. rock candy syrup
1-1/2 oz. lime juice (about one lime)

Shake and strain over ice in a rocks glass. Garnish with the one half of your spent lime, and a sprig of mint.

Balance is everything with a Mai Tai (or any good tropical drink, for that matter). Tweak the amounts to suit the particular rums and ingredients you are using.

The quality of the ingredients in a Mai Tai can make all the difference -- opt for nicer rums, if possible, and resist the temptation to use "close enough" rums -- take the time to track down a Martinique rum. Mix this with Bacardi, and it'll taste like ass. The mint may seem like a minor detail, but the aroma it adds is the hallmark of the Mai Tai.

And, per the Tiki Bar TV forum rules, always use fresh limes.

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#3 2005-11-29 11:46:41

johnny dollar
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From: baltimore md, papua new guinea
Registered: 2005-11-21
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Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

cheers humu 2, and excellent avatar photo!

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#4 2005-11-29 14:52:56

johnnycache
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From: Seattle
Registered: 2005-11-24
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Damn. That sounds good. Does anyone else have alternate recipes?

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#5 2005-11-29 16:43:55

Johnny Johnny
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From: The Tiki Bar
Registered: 2005-11-20
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Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Ok, well, I'm impressed. I did a little vaccuming of my pad last night and enjoyed a couple of Mai Tais while doing so, and I gotta admit this recipe sounds better!

I shall experiment this fine evening!

If you want to do the same at home, some of those ingredients can be ordered here:

Rock Syrup:
http://www.liquorama.net/index.asp?Page … odID=21531

Orgeat:
http://www.liquorama.net/index.asp?Page … odID=21538

Nice work Humuhumu!

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#6 2005-11-29 17:19:29

Exotic Martin Denny
Premier Tiki Overlord
Registered: 2005-11-25

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

NICE SITE!


Clachan a Choin

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#7 2005-11-29 19:33:21

Doctor Tiki
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Registered: 2005-11-19

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes


Cheers & mahalo

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#8 2005-11-29 20:10:49

hanford_lemoore
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From: Monolux
Registered: 2005-11-26
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Yeah, and like Humu said: you must remember the mint sprig! Although it's not considered an ingredient and doesn't affect the flavor directly, it adds the perfect finish -- a nice aroma every time you take a sip, and this further balances the experience. Bartenders at Trader Vic's bruise the sprig before adddng it to the drink to bring out even more of the scent.

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#9 2005-11-29 22:18:17

Humuhumu
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From: Monolux
Registered: 2005-11-26
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Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Howdy, J$, and thanks re: the photo. I'm enjoying a mighty fine Ray's Mistake at Tiki-Ti in that pic.

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#10 2005-11-29 23:14:49

johnnycache
Tiki Member
From: Seattle
Registered: 2005-11-24
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Humuhumu - I just visited your website and have to say... WOW! Really. Wow. In my book, you are now one of the coolest people in the world.

The next time I'm in San Francisco, I hope you'll have a drink with me. From looking at the Critiki map, I'd have to guess SF has a lot to offer. Thanks, once again, for the recipe!

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#11 2005-11-29 23:26:32

Doctor Tiki
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Registered: 2005-11-19

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

A few weeks ago I enjoyed a Mai Tai (or 4) at the new Trader Vic's in San Fransisco - only after I settled up did I learn of the San Fransisco style Mai Tai. Curses! Curses! Curses!


Cheers & mahalo

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#12 2005-11-30 04:09:26

mbanu
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Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

I run a simplified version of the original recipe. I don't blend rums, because I don't have crazy rum-blending skills like Trader Vic so I'd just fuck it up. I also don't blend syrups, because I like my orgeat orgeat-y and rock candy syrup is just a euphemism for plain sugar syrup anyhow.

1 ounce aged rum
1 ounce Grand Marnier
1/2 ounce orgeat syrup
1/2 ounce fresh-squeezed lime juice

Shake and strain.

 

#13 2005-11-30 06:23:22

johnny dollar
J$
From: baltimore md, papua new guinea
Registered: 2005-11-21
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

mbanu wrote:

I also don't blend syrups, because I like my orgeat orgeat-y and rock candy syrup is just a euphemism for plain sugar syrup anyhow.

howdy folks, looks like this is the thread to be in smile

i'd say yes and no, rock candy syrup (RCS) can be simple sugar, but the trader vic's and my homebrew RCS has vanilla in it too, it's a added lil flayva. but i myself do tend to go heavier on the orgeat than the traditional recipe, and i do find that the strength of fresh lime juice varies with the batch so i tend to go light on the lime until i get an idea of the juice's strength.

johnny johnny and dr. tiki, now that you all have a polish on the podcast, maybe it's time for the MAI TAI show complete with history of the drink. and maybe some hula and fire dancers.

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#14 2005-11-30 09:43:35

johnnycache
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From: Seattle
Registered: 2005-11-24
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

So this brings up a good question for me: What is the difference between Rock Candy Syrup and Simple Syrup?

A quick internet search appears to indicate that they are the same. But, as Johnny Dollar indicates (why are there so many Johnny _____ here?), Rock Candy Syrup often includes a bit of vanilla.

I always make my own simple syrup (1 part sugar, 1 part water, boil and chill). If I wanted to make Rock Candy Syrup, how would I vary that recipe?

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#15 2005-11-30 09:50:15

Humuhumu
Tiki Guru
From: Monolux
Registered: 2005-11-26
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

I realized as I was drifting off to sleep last night that I missed mentioning another important point about the Mai Tai -- the ice should be crushed. When looking for an ice crusher, be sure you don't accidentally buy an ice shaver, they're two different animals. Mine is a hand-crank model from IKEA named Groggy. He is my friend.

Johnnycache, thank you so much! My three tiki websites are a labor of much love. I created Critiki in 2002, but Ooga-Mooga and Humu Kon Tiki are new, I just started both of them a few months ago. I do every dag flippity thing on all three of 'em, the database design, perl coding, graphic design, the works (with the exception of the blog one -- that uses WordPress). And of course, the content. It's fun for me.

SF does indeed have a lot to offer! I'd be happy to meet up with you for drinks -- a bunch of us get together every Monday night at the San Francisco Trader Vic's, here's details:

Tiki Central thread - Monday Nights at SF Trader Vic's

I see now that you're in Seattle -- be sure to check out the new Trader Vic's that's opening in Bellevue on April 1. I've been hearing good things about it.

Doctor Tiki, there are a few ways to order a Mai Tai at Trader Vic's, and I often get them confused. There's also ordering one "the old way," which gets you a float of 151 (or is it dark rum? I forget). I'll ask when I'm there next Monday. Who knows, maybe you can order 'em animal style.

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#16 2005-11-30 10:23:43

Humuhumu
Tiki Guru
From: Monolux
Registered: 2005-11-26
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Here are two threads on Tiki Central that touch on making your own Rock Candy Syrup or Simple Syrup:

Rock Candy (TV's) vs. Simple syrup
Does anyone make their own syrups?

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#17 2005-11-30 13:30:16

kellie
Tiki Master
From: San Francisco
Registered: 2005-11-23

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Humuhumu -- thanks for the tip on Monday nights at Trader Vic's. I'm usually at another engagement, but I am free on Mondays in December. Might just have to stop by for a killer cocktail. Thanks the Tiki Gods that I can just take Muni home...

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#18 2005-12-06 02:09:10

Humuhumu
Tiki Guru
From: Monolux
Registered: 2005-11-26
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Okay, here's the word straight from a Trader Vic's bartender on the various ways to order a Mai Tai at Trader Vic's:

1) Mai Tai -- the default Mai Tai at Trader Vic's today is made using a concentrated drink mix (which has no relation to the mix they sell to patrons, the mix used at the bar is very different, very thick).

2) Mai Tai, San Francisco style -- this will get you a Mai Tai made in the original way, not with concentrated mix, but instead with two rums, orgeat, curacao, etc. -- an original Mai Tai

3) Mai Tai, old style -- ask for it "old style" or "the old way" or "old fashioned" and you don't get it actually mixed in the old way, but rather just with a float of 151 rum on it. Apparently an Emeryville patron in the '70s started this, he used to get his Mai Tais with an extra float on the top, and somehow this got twisted around into being the "old way," though a traditional Mai Tai does not have a float of 151 on it. Apparently, this goes for any drink on the Trader Vic's menu -- order it "old" anything, and it'll come with a float of 151 on it.

4) Mai Tai, San Francisco, old style -- this will get you a Mai Tai made from scratch, with a float of 151 on top.

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#19 2005-12-06 04:38:20

johnnycache
Tiki Member
From: Seattle
Registered: 2005-11-24
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Thanks for the tip, Humuhumu. I'll have to try it out when they open up near Seattle in April.

BTW - I tried a new tiki joint last weekend on a recommendation from Critiki. The service was awesome. The food was adequate (although in very small portions). The MaiTai's were so-so. The bill was surprisingly high.

If I had to balance all those considerations out... I'd have to say 7.5 just about describes it (which is exactly the number fortold by the grand Critiki).

For all you Seattlites out there: 7.5 describes Luau on 56th near Greenlake.

[edit for grammar]

Last edited by johnnycache (2005-12-06 04:38:59)

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#20 2005-12-06 09:14:06

Exotic Martin Denny
Premier Tiki Overlord
Registered: 2005-11-25

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

"old" = "Extra Tiki Punch"


Clachan a Choin

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#21 2005-12-07 06:47:50

LiquidTechnician
Tiki Member
Registered: 2005-12-05

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Orgeat is impossible to find down here in Miami. I stumbled upon a bottle once that might have been a promo or just the distributor getting rid of it so i've (and most of this city no doubt) have never tried a REAL mai tai.In fact,when i serve my version people ask allll the time why its not pink. Many here are pretty unsophisticated drink wise. Being the gateway to South America and the Carribbean we do have some decent rums tho. Anyways, my teenage wasteland testosterone overdosed nintendo powered crappy version of a mai tai is:

1 1/4 oz Ron Zacapa 22 y.o. rum
1 1/4 oz Myers
  3/4 oz Pina Colada mix
    3 oz pinapple
    1 oz oj

I know, i know..thats NOT a mai tai. Maybe its a hybrid bahama mama or somthing.

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#22 2005-12-07 22:56:22

LiquidTechnician
Tiki Member
Registered: 2005-12-05

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Oh i forgot, theres an ounce of apricot brandy in that recipe also.

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#23 2008-01-04 18:14:07

May B. Knot
New Member
Registered: 2008-01-04

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

I really like this recipe.

It uses 3 types of rum, plus several other ingredients. It makes a mean Mai Tai!

http://www.tikidrinkrecipes.com/recipe. … ID=41&

Love the show!

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#24 2008-01-06 07:12:35

captnkirk
Tiki Master
From: Hockessin, DE
Registered: 2006-01-04
Website

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Here is a link to the best Mai Tai I have found on the internet.  Beachbum Berrys $100 Mai Tai

The page has some great information on it too.  It is only a little different from the Humuhumu's Mai Tai.  Don't let the name scare you, the "$100" is the cost of about 25 drinks, not just one.

On a related note the world's most expensive cocktail is a Mai Tai (exactly like the one Trader Vic first mixed).  World's most expensive cocktail.

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#25 2008-03-06 17:21:24

angiesparks
Tiki Member
Registered: 2008-02-28

Re: Request for MaiTai recipes

Now I know how to make a great Mai Tai, thanks guys! What inspired you guys to make this webisode? I love it so much, just a fun idea, have you heard online video content is now eligible for a Primetime Emmy?

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