Tiki Bar TV Forum

Kapt'n Willy wrote:

metamorphosis wrote:

you know what mob mentality/democracy is?
a rule of the wolf over the sheep(s), or as Plato said (i think) "I can't stand a system where a opinion of the village is more valued then the one of philospher"

a rule of the stronger.

Uh-oh.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Live long, and prosper. Dude.

aham.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Live long, and prosper. Dude.

metamorphosis wrote:

aham.

"...or the one." Are you calling Spock  "a ham". 'Cause if you are,......I guess your kinda right.

Somebody better pour me a fricken drink before there's a protest riot thingy at the Tiki Bar!

Kapt'n Willy wrote:

LOL
Cheers

no worries, mate!.

Last edited by metamorphosis (2007-05-04 13:20:43)

There was a similar Star Trek.  But this issue is a little more complicated than property rights:

RyanCoke wrote:

Also, in the history of internet, jurnalism, TV, politic  banning/deleting/censoring/imprisoning  of the accounts/articles/movies/people has never produced a positive response with the 'mob'.(just look at the iraq)

Americans riot over this stuff.

Sounds similar to what I hear about your laws concerning a certain plant that should be pass around to the angry Diggers right about now!

You can possess it no problem, just don't get caught in the process of giving/taking ownership of it. LOL ;-)

See you all at the bar tonight? Cheers!

Canadian Avenger wrote:

However it is illegal for us to upload/share the material.

"If some one starts talking about backups and the like, they are completely full of shit.  In analogy, breaking the lock on the door is still considered breaking and entering, even though you don't take the stereo inside."

I would simply like to say the you are the one who is full of sh*t.  I live in one state, and work in another, I stay at friends houses during the week.  I have all of my music (both legally and illegally obtained) saved onto my laptop.  I also have a bunch of my movies (ALL legally obtained)saved on it.  Why? Because when you are in a different state more than you are home, it's nice to be able to watch and listen to any of your music and movies without having to lug the original dvd's or cd's with you. 

I have illegally burned cd's for friends.  However I can honestly tell you that at NO point have I ever illegally distributed my movies, it is strictly for convenience purposes.

Are the majority of people going to use code such as this for illegal things?  Yes.  But is copying a movie or cd for your own person use illegal?  NO.  Are there people out there who would use this code for the legally allowable use and not illegally?  Yes.  So get down off your high little pedestal and suck one.  Not everybody with a gun is out to kill people, not everybody with a match is trying to burn a house down.  Not everybody who has the ability to copy a dvd is going to illegally distribute it.

Are you a Digg user?

Did you accept the Terms of Use? http://digg.com/tos

We all had to.

"2. to contribute any Content that is infringing, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party;
3. for any illegal or unauthorized purpose. If you are an international user, you agree to comply with all local laws regarding online conduct and acceptable content"

"Digg may terminate or suspend any and all Services and your Digg account immediately, without prior notice or liability, if you breach any of the terms or conditions of the Terms of Use. Upon termination of your account, your right to use the Services will immediately cease."

So why is it then, when the rules are all very clearly stated, that users get upset when their accounts are removed for their own error?

The different points of view on this are interesting to me.  So I thought I would just toss mine out there too.

Blood, sweat, love, vision, and passion is what goes into creating and growing something like Digg.  When you work so hard on something like that your instinct is to protect it.  Which I would not have any other way as users and fans of Digg directly benefit from this by the simple fact that Digg stays in operation.

Now you have the stage set with Digg receiving a cease and desist order that they need to remove the posts from a legal stand point.  Even though we live in a technology challenged legal system Digg has to follow the laws just like any company.  I highly doubt that they just started yanking posts with out making sure the order had legs at that point in time.  I'm sure Kevin and company believed that they had to do this in order to protect Digg and keep the Digg community alive.

All in all to me it really comes down to the outcome here.  People made their view clear and Kevin has stood up and proves that he knows that Digg is alive in large part due to the user base and if the majority wants to risk it all over this then so be it.  Now to me this takes a lot of guts.  He has now stood up and put himself and Digg directly in the line of fire with a big target on their back for the Digg users, fans, and beyond.  How hard would it be for you to put at risk years of blood, sweat, love, and passion?

Just my perspective.

Last edited by Z Live From Pluto (2007-05-05 07:21:41)

"He who breaks a thing to find out what is it has surely left the path of wisdom." I think Gandalf said that. Gandalf also said, "I support Digg."

Let's bring this converstation back to the real world...

MELONS!!!

The crew over at Galacticast had some fun with it. For those of you that are fans of Lost, you'll get a kick out of this episode.

http://www.galacticast.com/

Kapt'n Willy wrote:

Sir Poo-a-lot wrote:

Thanks, bro. You can pretty much relate everything to Star Wars.

I'm just waiting for the moment when I can quote,
"Asteriods do not concern me Admiral, I WANT that ship!"
..In a place where it will make perfect sense!

Hahaha I hear that!

Well said.